Comments on: Bronx Beer Caves http://www.ediblegeography.com/bronx-beer-caves/ Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:12:04 +0000 hourly 1 By: Joe McPhee http://www.ediblegeography.com/bronx-beer-caves/comment-page-1/#comment-292 Joe McPhee Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:24:50 +0000 http://www.ediblegeography.com/?p=1892#comment-292 Although many beers today are aged on lees (bottle conditioned) this is not the same as the methode champagnoise. In the latter process, the wine (or beer) goes through a process called riddling, in order to removed the spent yeast from the bottle without filtering. There are very few breweries who actually go through this last step of the process (neither Allagash nor Ommegang do it, notwithstanding Allagash's stating that they do on their website). Many lager brewers however do a cold-conditioning process in order to allow the yeast to clean up the byproducts of fermentation. Usually today it is done in temperature controlled tanks, although cave-aging is pretty traditional in the parts of Germany where lager brewing originated. Either way, it's a cool article. Although many beers today are aged on lees (bottle conditioned) this is not the same as the methode champagnoise. In the latter process, the wine (or beer) goes through a process called riddling, in order to removed the spent yeast from the bottle without filtering. There are very few breweries who actually go through this last step of the process (neither Allagash nor Ommegang do it, notwithstanding Allagash’s stating that they do on their website).

Many lager brewers however do a cold-conditioning process in order to allow the yeast to clean up the byproducts of fermentation. Usually today it is done in temperature controlled tanks, although cave-aging is pretty traditional in the parts of Germany where lager brewing originated. Either way, it’s a cool article.

]]> By: Geoffrey Ebling http://www.ediblegeography.com/bronx-beer-caves/comment-page-1/#comment-291 Geoffrey Ebling Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:05:11 +0000 http://www.ediblegeography.com/?p=1892#comment-291 It's amazing the caves lasted as long as they did. It’s amazing the caves lasted as long as they did.

]]> By: Nicola http://www.ediblegeography.com/bronx-beer-caves/comment-page-1/#comment-260 Nicola Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:29:10 +0000 http://www.ediblegeography.com/?p=1892#comment-260 Thanks for the correction, Adam! Also, I should point out that the moonshine I linked to is actually going to be made in Williamsburg - I was just suggesting that it would be even cooler to start a Bronx distillery, which could then use those caves. Thanks for the correction, Adam! Also, I should point out that the moonshine I linked to is actually going to be made in Williamsburg – I was just suggesting that it would be even cooler to start a Bronx distillery, which could then use those caves.

]]> By: Adam Kuban http://www.ediblegeography.com/bronx-beer-caves/comment-page-1/#comment-259 Adam Kuban Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:03:49 +0000 http://www.ediblegeography.com/?p=1892#comment-259 Thanks for the link to the Bronx moonshine! Missed that earlier this week. Also wanted to point out that the <em>Times</em> didn't break this story. First I saw it was <a href="http://ny1.com/1-all-boroughs-news-content/110815/beer-caves-discovered-under-bronx-construction-site" rel="nofollow">on NY1</a>. (Actually, first I saw it was on <a href="http://www.newyorkology.com/index.php" rel="nofollow">NewYorkology</a>'s Twitter pointing to NY1.) Thanks for the link to the Bronx moonshine! Missed that earlier this week.

Also wanted to point out that the Times didn’t break this story. First I saw it was on NY1. (Actually, first I saw it was on NewYorkology‘s Twitter pointing to NY1.)

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